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The next gen Optima will now be called the K5 and will come with and AWD system on the 1.6T version. The information was found on the fueleconomy.gov site but seems to now have been removed. Here is a story on it:

 

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LOL they're sorta copying what Acura did with their U.S. models when they stopped using model names like Integra and Legend for their vehicles.
 

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Back then, all the other luxury brand were doing like the Germans, so they just did that to separate their luxury line from the regular cars. In KIA's case, the Optima is called K5 in Korea, guess they just want to make that worldwide. Who knows if they will change over the rest of the line although, the K900 might not get that change. :)
 

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LOL indeed--I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if say, some folks might not know off the top of their head what an (Acura) ILX looks like vs. a TLX...but many folks can readily visualize the difference between an Accord and a Civic...or between an Optima and a Forte. There are exceptions to the rule though--i.e., I don't think many folks wouldn't be able to distinguish between a BMW 3-series vs. a 7-series.
 

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Speaking of Acura, they just launched their new TLX today. The back looks similar to the ILX and the front is TLX, it just look like a mixing of both cars. I was hoping it would be close to the concept they showed. Subaru does a similar thing with their concept. They look great and seem like they could come out as is, with a few minor changes but the end product is nothing like the concept. That GV70 looks close to the concept, I wonder if they will decide to do that 2 door concept they made some years back. That huge grill will fit their look now.
 

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The new TLX is much better looking than the old one. I want to know more about pricing levels, especially with the Type S coming next spring. They didn't say how much HP/torque the twin-turbo V6 will produce yet either. The base TLX is supposed to start in the mid $30K range. The K5 GT will probably be in that ballpark, so it might be a good comparison.
 

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We are excited for the all new 2021 K5 to come out.

Lots of really neat mods are already being made for it now. ;)
 

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I'm guessing by june or July we should see some US press videos, with it being available by September.It is certainly a great looking car. I'm more interested in what the GT will have to offer this time around.
 

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Here's hoping that dealers won't try to jack up the price on the K5 like they're doing with the Telluride; yes I realize that it's their right to set whatever price they see fit but if you browse any of the Telluride forums you'll see that many dealers had (and quite a few still are) been pricing them anywhere from $1K to as much as $5K over MSRP...AND refusing to budge one bit on the price. Heck one of the local dealers in my area flat-out told me that he wasn't going to sell me one no lower than MSRP.
 

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Here's hoping that dealers won't try to jack up the price on the K5 like they're doing with the Telluride; yes I realize that it's their right to set whatever price they see fit but if you browse any of the Telluride forums you'll see that many dealers had (and quite a few still are) been pricing them anywhere from $1K to as much as $5K over MSRP...AND refusing to budge one bit on the price. Heck one of the local dealers in my area flat-out told me that he wasn't going to sell me one no lower than MSRP.
Blame the people that buy at or over MSRP. That's the reason dealerships sell them at those prices. Why wouldn't they?
 

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Exactly. We went Telluride shopping last summer/fall. Was going to order one and the dealer said they were going 5k above MSRP. I told no thanks. He would get that from somebody but not me.
 

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I get that dealerships can and will sell Tellurides at inflated prices...but that many of them are still unwilling to budge even 3+ months into COVID-19 seems a bit appalling to me IMHO.
 

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I don't think they will over charge for the run of the mill version but the GT, they might try that.
 

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I get that dealerships can and will sell Tellurides at inflated prices...but that many of them are still unwilling to budge even 3+ months into COVID-19 seems a bit appalling to me IMHO.
Because they can't keep them on the lots they're selling so fast. What does COVID have anything to do with a free market and basic rules of supply and demand? There are other vehicles people can purchase for much cheaper prices.
 

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What does COVID have anything to do with a free market and basic rules of supply and demand?
So COVID-19 had nothing to do with why oil prices had dropped to as low as near-$0 per barrel, or why stores kept running out of toilet paper? Surely even you must realize that the rules of supply and demand can be affected by external forces, whether they be due to nature or man-made.
 

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So COVID-19 had nothing to do with why oil prices had dropped to as low as near-$0 per barrel, or why stores kept running out of toilet paper? Surely even you must realize that the rules of supply and demand can be affected by external forces, whether they be due to nature or man-made.
It was more to the point that you think it's appalling to charge high prices for a vehicle. Economics still applies whether anyone likes it or not.
 

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The next gen Optima will now be called the K5 and will come with and AWD system on the 1.6T version. The information was Speed Test found on the fueleconomy.gov site but seems to now have been removed. Here is a story on it:
What does COVID have anything to do with a free market and basic rules of supply and demand?
 
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