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    Is this a good deal?

    Local mechanic will charge me 80 cash for oil change on 2.0 turbo engine...(2016) he uses oil called liqui moly 5w40 full synthetic. I'm currently using total ineo 5w30 mc3 full synthetic with oem filter...he says he can get me a denso filter or oem choice is mine he says denso is better....anyone use this oil and have any suggestions ?

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    I think that's about on par. I do my own with full synthetic and Mobil 1 filter and it's $35.

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    If you don't have the OEM filter, the dealership can try to use it against you. "Oh, you want us to fix your broken radio? Well, we saw you are using an aftermarket filter, so we think that caused the radio to break, sorry we won't cover the radio anymore."

    Also, it always blows my mind how a garage will charge totally different prices for oil changes, depending on whether conventional vs semi-synth vs full synth. I understand charging more to cover the price of the more expensive oil, but why charge way way more than the difference in oil price when it's the exact same labor and work? If the difference in price of oil is $10, then the difference in price for the oil change with the different oils should also be $10. But no, they charge like $40 more, just to cover the $10 price difference? Hmm.

    But the point remains about the filter. It doesn't matter how good the aftermarket filters are. If you use aftermarket, you are exposing yourself to unnecessary risk when it comes to warranty coverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingFatty View Post
    If you don't have the OEM filter, the dealership can try to use it against you. "Oh, you want us to fix your broken radio? Well, we saw you are using an aftermarket filter, so we think that caused the radio to break, sorry we won't cover the radio anymore."

    Also, it always blows my mind how a garage will charge totally different prices for oil changes, depending on whether conventional vs semi-synth vs full synth. I understand charging more to cover the price of the more expensive oil, but why charge way way more than the difference in oil price when it's the exact same labor and work? If the difference in price of oil is $10, then the difference in price for the oil change with the different oils should also be $10. But no, they charge like $40 more, just to cover the $10 price difference? Hmm.

    But the point remains about the filter. It doesn't matter how good the aftermarket filters are. If you use aftermarket, you are exposing yourself to unnecessary risk when it comes to warranty coverage.
    Yea, Iv heard a few stories regarding the filter. Just be safe and go OEM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OptimaInThe6 View Post
    Local mechanic will charge me 80 cash for oil change on 2.0 turbo engine...(2016) he uses oil called liqui moly 5w40 full synthetic. I'm currently using total ineo 5w30 mc3 full synthetic with oem filter...he says he can get me a denso filter or oem choice is mine he says denso is better....anyone use this oil and have any suggestions ?
    Sounds about right. It cost about $30-50 for about 5 quarts of good synthetic oil and an OEM oil filter when you do it yourself.

    The mechanic will charge you for his/her labor and a slight up-charge on parts/material used to remain in business plus a used oil disposal fee, so it sound about fair in my opinion. I would just stick with the OEM oil filter.

    I never used Liquid Moly oil but it has a strong following in Europe with Audi,BMW,Mercedes owners.
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    AEM dry performance drop-in air filter w/radiator cowl panel removed
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    5w-40 Total Quartz 9000 Energy synthetic oil
    NGK ILKR8E6 spark plugs(1422)
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    Black check-mark fog light trim
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    "Used oil disposal fee" is hilarious to me. They actually get PAID to dispose of the used oil. Currently the price is right at 90 cents per gallon. When oil prices go up. the price goes up with it. I've seen it as high as $1.70 per gallon of used oil. Pick up 500 gallons and they made $500+.

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    Good to know about the OE oil filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OptimaInThe6 View Post
    Local mechanic will charge me 80 cash for oil change on 2.0 turbo engine...(2016) he uses oil called liqui moly 5w40 full synthetic. I'm currently using total ineo 5w30 mc3 full synthetic with oem filter...he says he can get me a denso filter or oem choice is mine he says denso is better....anyone use this oil and have any suggestions ?
    Hey. I'm just north of the city. Your price is decent for the area. I buy my oem filter from the dealership, (helps with keeping records and I agree with using oem filters) Mobil 1 when on sale at Canadian Tire (34.99 for 5.4 litres) and have my neighbour (mechanic) change it for 10 bucks. So, 8 for the filter, 30 or so for the oil and 10 for the oil change...$48 and a tall boy.
    2014 Optima SX Turbo, graphite, stock

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    That's awesome I'm currently running TOTAL QUARTZ ineo mc3 full synthetic I don't seem to like it that much actually I've done further research and the oil to be used on my car is TOTAL QUARTZ 9000 HKS G-310
    I'm currently talking to a shop in Brampton that might be able to order it. That's the original oil that the car comes with from factory. I will just buy the oem filters from the dealer it's only 8 bucks and that way they can't say anything. I got the total oil from him for 35 bucks for 5L jug it's definitely worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingFatty View Post
    If you don't have the OEM filter, the dealership can try to use it against you. "Oh, you want us to fix your broken radio? Well, we saw you are using an aftermarket filter, so we think that caused the radio to break, sorry we won't cover the radio anymore."
    The Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act prevents dealerships from doing this exact thing. If a dealer tries to tell you this, it is in direct violation of federal law. They have to be able to prove that whatever aftermarket part you installed directly caused the issue. Since the oil filter and the radio are in no way connected, that situation could not happen.

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